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LT  Norman G. ROBITOY

UNIT: 349th BOMB Sqdn POSITION: BOM 

Bombardier on 1st Lt Martin T.Hoskinson Crew, KIA May 24, 1944 over Berlin.

SERIAL #: O-682561 STATUS: KIA
MACR: 05171 CR: 05171

Comments1: 24 MAY 44 BERLIN (CREW 09 PL 102635)

COMMENTS & NOTES

MEMO 1:

CREW

1st Lt Martin T.Hoskinson P KIA 24/5/44
2nd Lt Marvin H.Apking CP KIA "  BERLIN     24 MAY 1944; THE 100TH LOST 9 AIRCRAFT
2nd Lt Norman G.Robitoy B KIA "  ON THIS MISSION.
S/Sgt Jerome Miller  R KIA "
S/Sgt Thomas L.Sibert  E KIA "
  Sgt Salvadore Romero BT KIA " A/C#42 102635
  Sgt George Sneckus  RW KIA " MACR #5171, Microfiche #1854
  Sgt A.V.Perry   LW KIA "
  Sgt Marlyn M.Schrader TG KIA "

349th Sqdn. Crew,as above,joined the 100th Group on 9/5/44. Thls was probably their first or second mission. On 
24/5/44, Lt.Joseph C.Silvestro,from the crew of E.P.McKeague, was flying as navigator and was KIA. One report indicates
a 1000 lb bomb from a plane in the high squadron fell on this aircraft forward of the horizontal stablizer breaking the 
ship in two pieces. The main fuselage immediately went into a tight spin which precluded anyone baling out.

E-Mail note from Robert Black to Michael P. Faley (May 21, 2001)Subject: Martin Hoskinson crash
It has been reported that this plane, which went down on May 24, 1944, may have been hit by a bomb from an American plane above. It seems this is not true.
I have been in touch with a German researcher who sent me the following:
Dear Robert:
Please let me give you an overview from this day out of the German eyes: On this May 24, 1944 was from the Germans point of view a big air battle in the region of south Schleswig-Holstein, the northernmost county of Germany with border to Denmark.
The combat boxes of the BG's were flying in lots of cirrus clouds and the sight was extremely bad. So the German fighters made lots of passes and could not see exactly distances to the bombers. They said it was a milky haze from the cirrus and from the smoke of the engines.. In this air battle only in our region were KIA 3 fighter pilots, one of them was the wing commander of I./JG 11 1st. Lt. Konig. Konig was coming from the night fighters with only one eye and on this day due to extreme bad view he crashed into a B-17, obviously on one of the three reported. His wing was seen falling off and his FW 190 spiraled down.
After his death 1st. Lt. Koing was made Captain and got the knights cross. Another two pilots were shot down and wounded. In the air was a mixture of Me 109s and FW 190s.
This battle is called "Die Luftschlacht bei Kaltenkirchen" the air battle at Kaltenkirchen. Kaltenkirchen a/f was a well-known airfield in the region.
From Kaltenkirchen a/f to the crash point of the three B-17Nr. 2102635 Hoskinson at east of ItzstedtNr. 2102648 Roeder at west of Sulfeld andNr. 21026624 Johnson northeast of Rotenhahnare only about 30 km.
2102635 Hoskinson at Itzstedt and 2102648 Roeder at Sulfeld crashed only 200 m away from each other and I think that one of them had the air crash with commander Konig, If you know what position Hoskinson was flying it would be possible to say exactly that this ship had the crash.
The whole formation of I./JG 11 on this day had only 9 or 11 planes! (in another e-mail from our contact he reports another 30 German planes were in the air battle bringing the total to 40 which our U.S. records indicate.)
Should have had 27. The school chronicle says, that the plane with big noise came down out of the clouds and crashed into the earth exploding and burning with a big cloud of smoke. All airmen in the Itzstedt B-17 were dead inside the plane and burned by fire and the 10th lay outside the plane on a field. .
Robert L. Black, survivor of 2102624, crashed at Rotenhahn, had not seen a German fighter crashing into his plane as the survivors of the Roeder crew did not.. So from todays point of view 1st. Lt. Konig must have crashed into 2102635 Hoskinson.
In an earlier book by German fighter Fritz Engau says " This head on attack was one of the strangest and almost ghostly mission of I./JG 11. In more than 6,000 M (about 20,000 feet) the first B-17 appeared shadowy in a milky haze and made their vapor trails in this haze. The following b-17s made more and more vapor trails into haze and condensed the carped. Lt. Konig, who had only one eye made his head on pass obviously to late and crashed by accident into the B-17. Engau was flying second to the right and he saw something like a flash or explosion and thereafter-big pieces in the air. He had as well a B-17 in his Revi and shot some rounds but he got no credit this day.  Lt. Hans Heinrich "King" Konig was one of the experienced day fighting commanders with 28 credits-20 4 engine bombers.
Bob Black

MEMO 2:


			

             
            

         

         
KIA / MIA / EVA / INT INFORMATION: 
  
         

  

    TARGET:
			Berlin
    DATE: 
			1944-05-24
     
  

  

    AIRCRAFT:
	(42-102635)
    CAUSE:
			Collision with FW190
     
  



			


			

            
BURIAL INFORMATION

            

  

    PLOT:
			C
    ROW:
			19
     
  

  

    GRAVE:
			9
    CEMETERY:
			Ardennes, Neuville-en-Cond, Belgium
     
  



			
			
            

				
        
		
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