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LT  Cordy A. RAMER

UNIT: 350th BOMB Sqdn POSITION: BOM
SERIAL #: O-545535 STATUS: POW
MACR: 07811 CR: 07811

Comments1: 29 JUL 44 MERSEBURG (EAC)

COMMENTS & NOTES

MEMO 1:

CREW
   
2nd Lt John S.Giles,Jr.                   P      POW      11/9/44  RUHLAND  sn# 0753999         Taps 1980
2nd Lt Sterling P.Lambert             CP     CPT          7/8/44 BEAUTOR
2nd Lt Charles E.Gunter,Jr.         NAV     CPT      25/12/44  KAISERLAUTERN  (350th Squadron Navigator) 
2nd Lt Cordy A.Ramer,Jr.           BOM     POW       29/7/44 MERSEBURG (with crew of E.C.Jones) sn# 0-545535
 S/Sgt Elzo Bevan                      ROG     POW      11/9/44 RUHLAND
 S/Sgt Andrew G Leuthold          TTE     POW      11/9/44 RUHLAND                     A/C ,#43 37863 
 S/Sgt Norbert O. DePauw          BTG    POW       11/9/44 RUHLAND                   MACR #8812,Microfiche #3235
   Sgt Albert S. Pela                    WG    POW       11/9/44 RUHLAND
   Sgt Jack E.Conger                   WG     NOC
   Sgt Robert B.Rowley                 TG     POW      11/9/44 RUHLAND   

350th Sqdn.  Crew,as above,joined the 100th Group on 7/4/44. See "CONTRAILLS" p.199 for photo
Lt Ramer was in Stalag Luft I along with his old pilot Lt John Giles Jr.    Crew flew in "HARD LUCK" and "FLETCHERS CASTORIA" and "LEADING LADY".  

Mission Memories: "On our first or second mission we were attacked by fighter planes with Yellow Spinners.  We found out later that these were the Abbyville Kids.  Missions to BERLIN were the most harrowing. We called it "20 Minutes of Hell".  The flak was so thick it seemed you could walk on it.  Dropping supplies to the French underground were also interesting.  On one trip I was flying with Eden Jones and were were flying wing to John Giles. When Giles dumped his load a parachute opened early and was hung up in the bomb bay.  We thought the plane was going down but the bombardier cut the chute loose and all was well.  July 29, 1944, on Merseburg, my career as a Bombardier ended. I had visions of completing my missions and going home but all that had to wait until the War was over."

Base Memories: "I remember Sterling P. (Pete) Lambert who was a co-pilot on the Giles crew.  Pete was anxious for a crew of his own so he and the crew chief and I would practice take off and landings day after day. We got in plenty of extra flying time.  I very well remember the 3:30AM briefings. I remember the briefing officer when he would pull the curtain to reveal the red ribbon stretched from Thorpe Abbotts to the target.  I don't remember his name but we owe a lot to the soldier who got us out of the sack and to briefings before each mission.  The he got us to the plane for the take off and was there waiting when we landed after the mission.  This guy and his counterparts deserve a lot of credit."
                   Lt Cordy A. Ramer Jr (mpf 2001)
                   
On 11/9/44, RUHLAND MISSION: Lts J.M.Shelly, K.S.Welty & H.H.Skelton had replaced Lambert, Gunter & Ramer. The three became 
POWs.  On 11/8/44,Jack Conger was flying with the crew of A.D.Elbel

1st Lt John S. Giles, Jr.,          P     SN# 0753999
2nd Lt Harris H. Skelton,         BOM SN# 0664833
1st Lt Charlie E. Gunter, Jr.     NAV SN# 0699160
T Sgt Andrew G. Leuthold      TTE SN# 37240307
S Sgt Jack E. Conger            WG SN# 19151118
S Sgt Robert B. Rowley           TG SN# 31140110
S Sgt Norbert O. Depauw      BTG SN# 37118775
T Sgt Elzo Bevan                ROG SN# 34700509
S Sgt Albert S. Pela             WG SN# 18067003
T/Sgt Floyd O. Douglas         TOGG (listed on this Crew on July 2, 1944) sn#32383566

Missions of Lt Cordy A. Ramer, Jr with the Giles Crew…mpf

1 19/4/44 LIPPSTADT
2. 20/4/44 MARQUENVILLE
3. 22/4/44 HAMM
4. 25/4/44 DIJON
5. 26/4/44 BRUNSWICK
6.   1/5/44 SAARGUEMINES
7.   7/5/44 BERLIN
8.   8/5/44 BERLIN
9.   9/5/44 LAON
    10/5/44 FALLERSLEBEN-RECALL
10. 13/5/44 OSNABRUCK
11. 23/5/44 TROYES

Gordy A. Ramer, Jr. flew 11 missions with the above crew before moving to the E.C. Jones crew where flew 17 additional missions.


6/19/1944 41 -142 RAMER C.A. LT BOM 31903 CORME ECLUSE, AF
6/19/1944 41 -142 FINCHER A.B. LT NAV 31903 CORME ECLUSE, AF
6/19/1944 41 -142 WELLS E.R. S/SGT RWG 31903 CORME ECLUSE, AF
6/19/1944 41 -142 RIES R.E. LT CP 31903 CORME ECLUSE, AF
6/19/1944 41 -142 GRIGGIN L.J. T/SGT ROG 31903 CORME ECLUSE, AF
6/19/1944 41 -142 JONES E.C. LT P 31903 CORME ECLUSE, AF
6/19/1944 41 -142 EADIE J. T/SGT LWG 31903 CORME ECLUSE, AF
6/19/1944 41 -142 CASSELL J.R. T/SGT TG 31903 CORME ECLUSE, AF
6/19/1944 41 -142 PRINCE H. S/SGT BTG 31903 CORME ECLUSE, AF
6/19/1944 41 -142 MORAN F.J. S/SGT TTE 31903 CORME ECLUSE, AF

6/25/1944 41 148 GRIFFIN L.J. S/SGT ROG 37936 SOUTH OF FRANCE
6/25/1944 41 148 EADIE J. S/SGT LWG 37936 SOUTH OF FRANCE
6/25/1944 41 148 WELLS E.R. SGT RWG 37936 SOUTH OF FRANCE
6/25/1944 41 148 MORAN F.J. SGT TTE 37936 SOUTH OF FRANCE
6/25/1944 41 148 CASSELL J.R. SGT TG 37936 SOUTH OF FRANCE
6/25/1944 41 148 RAMER C.A. LT BOM 37936 SOUTH OF FRANCE
6/25/1944 41 148 FINCHER A.B. LT NAV 37936 SOUTH OF FRANCE
6/25/1944 41 148 RIES R.E. LT CP 37936 SOUTH OF FRANCE
6/25/1944 41 148 JONES E.C. LT P 37936 SOUTH OF FRANCE
6/25/1944 41 148 PRINCE H. CPL BTG 37936 SOUTH OF FRANCE

6/29/1944 41 150 PRINCE H. CPL BTG 31074 BOHLEN (OIL REF)
6/29/1944 41 150 CASSELL J.R. SGT TG 31074 BOHLEN (OIL REF)
6/29/1944 41 150 EADIE J. S/SGT LWG 31074 BOHLEN (OIL REF)
6/29/1944 41 150 WELLS E.R. SGT RWG 31074 BOHLEN (OIL REF)
6/29/1944 41 150 MORAN F.J. SGT TTE 31074 BOHLEN (OIL REF)
6/29/1944 41 150 GRIFFIN L.J. S/SGT ROG 31074 BOHLEN (OIL REF)
6/29/1944 41 150 RAMER C.A. LT BOM 31074 BOHLEN (OIL REF)
6/29/1944 41 150 FINCHER A.B. LT NAV 31074 BOHLEN (OIL REF)
6/29/1944 41 150 JONES E.C. LT P 31074 BOHLEN (OIL REF)
6/29/1944 41 150 RIES R.E. LT CP 31074 BOHLEN (OIL REF)

7/4/1944 41 152 WELLS E.R. SGT RWG 31903 GIEN (RECALLED)
7/4/1944 41 152 MORAN F.J. SGT TTE 31903 GIEN (RECALLED)
7/4/1944 41 152 EADIE J. S/SGT LWG 31903 GIEN (RECALLED)
7/4/1944 41 152 PRINCE H. CPL BTG 31903 GIEN (RECALLED)
7/4/1944 41 152 RAMER C.A. LT BOM 31903 GIEN (RECALLED)
7/4/1944 41 152 JONES E.C. LT P 31903 GIEN (RECALLED)
7/4/1944 41 152 FINCHER A.B. LT NAV 31903 GIEN (RECALLED)
7/4/1944 41 152 RIES R.E. LT CP 31903 GIEN (RECALLED)
7/4/1944 41 152 CASSELL J.R. SGT TG 31903 GIEN (RECALLED)
7/4/1944 41 152 GRIFFIN L.J. S/SGT ROG 31903 GIEN (RECALLED)

7/8/1944 41 156 TRUCKETT G.R. T/SGT ROG 102657 CLAMECY-JOLGYN
7/8/1944 41 156 EADIE J. S/SGT LWG 102657 CLAMECY-JOLGYN
7/8/1944 41 156 WELLS E.R. SGT RWG 102657 CLAMECY-JOLGYN
7/8/1944 41 156 MORAN F.J. SGT TTE 102657 CLAMECY-JOLGYN
7/8/1944 41 156 CASSELL J.R. SGT TG 102657 CLAMECY-JOLGYN
7/8/1944 41 156 RAMER C.A. LT BOM 102657 CLAMECY-JOLGYN
7/8/1944 41 156 FINCHER A.B. LT NAV 102657 CLAMECY-JOLGYN
7/8/1944 41 156 RIES R.E. LT CP 102657 CLAMECY-JOLGYN
7/8/1944 41 156 JONES E.C. LT P 102657 CLAMECY-JOLGYN
7/8/1944 41 156 PRINCE H. CPL BTG 102657 CLAMECY-JOLGYN

7/11/1944 41 157 PRINCE H. CPL BTG 97621 MUNICH (AERO ENGINES)
7/11/1944 41 157 CASSELL J.R. SGT TG 97621 MUNICH (AERO ENGINES)
7/11/1944 41 157 EADIE J. S/SGT LWG 97621 MUNICH (AERO ENGINES)
7/11/1944 41 157 WELLS E.R. SGT RWG 97621 MUNICH (AERO ENGINES)
7/11/1944 41 157 MORAN F.J. SGT TTE 97621 MUNICH (AERO ENGINES)
7/11/1944 41 157 GRIFFIN L.J. T/SGT ROG 97621 MUNICH (AERO ENGINES)
7/11/1944 41 157 RAMER C.A. LT BOM 97621 MUNICH (AERO ENGINES)
7/11/1944 41 157 FINCHER A.B. LT NAV 97621 MUNICH (AERO ENGINES)
7/11/1944 41 157 JONES E.C. LT P 97621 MUNICH (AERO ENGINES)
7/11/1944 41 157 RIES R.E. LT CP 97621 MUNICH (AERO ENGINES)

7/12/1944 41 158 MORAN F.J. SGT TTE 31537 MUNICH (IND. AREA)
7/12/1944 41 158 EADIE J. S/SGT LWG 31537 MUNICH (IND. AREA)
7/12/1944 41 158 WELLS E.R. SGT RWG 31537 MUNICH (IND. AREA)
7/12/1944 41 158 PRINCE H. CPL BTG 31537 MUNICH (IND. AREA)
7/12/1944 41 158 RAMER C.A. LT BOM 31537 MUNICH (IND. AREA)
7/12/1944 41 158 FINCHER A.B. LT NAV 31537 MUNICH (IND. AREA)
7/12/1944 41 158 RIES R.E. LT CP 31537 MUNICH (IND. AREA)
7/12/1944 41 158 JONES E.C. LT P 31537 MUNICH (IND. AREA)
7/12/1944 41 158 CASSELL J.R. SGT TG 31537 MUNICH (IND. AREA)
7/12/1944 41 158 GRIFFIN L.J. T/SGT ROG 31537 MUNICH (IND. AREA)

7/13/1944 41 159 GRIFFIN L.J. T/SGT ROG 31220 MUNICH (JET ENGINES)
7/13/1944 41 159 CASSELL J.R. SGT TG 31220 MUNICH (JET ENGINES)
7/13/1944 41 159 EADIE J. S/SGT LWG 31220 MUNICH (JET ENGINES)
7/13/1944 41 159 WELLS E.R. SGT RWG 31220 MUNICH (JET ENGINES)
7/13/1944 41 159 MORAN F.J. SGT TTE 31220 MUNICH (JET ENGINES)
7/13/1944 41 159 RAMER C.A. LT BOM 31220 MUNICH (JET ENGINES)
7/13/1944 41 159 FINCHER A.B. LT NAV 31220 MUNICH (JET ENGINES)
7/13/1944 41 159 RIES R.E. LT CP 31220 MUNICH (JET ENGINES)
7/13/1944 41 159 JONES E.C. LT P 31220 MUNICH (JET ENGINES)
7/13/1944 41 159 PRINCE H. CPL BTG 31220 MUNICH (JET ENGINES)

7/14/1944 41 160 MORAN F.J. SGT TTE 31220 SOUTH OF FRANCE
7/14/1944 41 160 RIES R.E. LT CP 31220 SOUTH OF FRANCE
7/14/1944 41 160 CASSELL J.R. SGT TG 31220 SOUTH OF FRANCE
7/14/1944 41 160 WELLS E.R. SGT RWG 31220 SOUTH OF FRANCE
7/14/1944 41 160 PRINCE H. CPL BTG 31220 SOUTH OF FRANCE
7/14/1944 41 160 RAMER C.A. LT BOM 31220 SOUTH OF FRANCE
7/14/1944 41 160 FINCHER A.B. LT NAV 31220 SOUTH OF FRANCE
7/14/1944 41 160 JONES E.C. LT P 31220 SOUTH OF FRANCE
7/14/1944 41 160 EADIE J. S/SGT LWG 31220 SOUTH OF FRANCE
7/14/1944 41 160 GRIFFIN L.J. T/SGT ROG 31220 SOUTH OF FRANCE

7/17/1944 41 161 PRINCE H. CPL BTG 102958 AUXERRE & MONTGOURNOY
7/17/1944 41 161 JONES E.C. LT P 102958 AUXERRE & MONTGOURNOY
7/17/1944 41 161 RIES R.E. LT CP 102958 AUXERRE & MONTGOURNOY
7/17/1944 41 161 FINCHER A.B. LT NAV 102958 AUXERRE & MONTGOURNOY
7/17/1944 41 161 RAMER C.A. LT BOM 102958 AUXERRE & MONTGOURNOY
7/17/1944 41 161 MORAN F.J. SGT TTE 102958 AUXERRE & MONTGOURNOY
7/17/1944 41 161 WELLS E.R. SGT RWG 102958 AUXERRE & MONTGOURNOY
7/17/1944 41 161 EADIE J. S/SGT LWG 102958 AUXERRE & MONTGOURNOY
7/17/1944 41 161 CASSELL J.R. SGT TG 102958 AUXERRE & MONTGOURNOY
7/17/1944 41 161 GRIFFIN L.J. T/SGT ROG 102958 AUXERRE & MONTGOURNOY

7/18/1944 41 162 CASSELL J.R. SGT TG 3413 KIEL & HEMMINGSTADT
7/18/1944 41 162 RIES R.E. LT CP 3413 KIEL & HEMMINGSTADT
7/18/1944 41 162 FINCHER A.B. LT NAV 3413 KIEL & HEMMINGSTADT
7/18/1944 41 162 RAMER C.A. LT BOM 3413 KIEL & HEMMINGSTADT
7/18/1944 41 162 GRIFFIN L.J. T/SGT ROG 3413 KIEL & HEMMINGSTADT
7/18/1944 41 162 MORAN F.J. SGT TTE 3413 KIEL & HEMMINGSTADT
7/18/1944 41 162 PRINCE H. CPL BTG 3413 KIEL & HEMMINGSTADT
7/18/1944 41 162 EADIE J. S/SGT LWG 3413 KIEL & HEMMINGSTADT
7/18/1944 41 162 WELLS E.R. SGT RWG 3413 KIEL & HEMMINGSTADT
7/18/1944 41 162 JONES E.C. LT P 3413 KIEL & HEMMINGSTADT

7/19/1944 41 163 RAMER C.A. LT BOM 31903 SCHWEINFURT & DUREN
7/19/1944 41 163 CASSELL J.R. SGT TG 31903 SCHWEINFURT & DUREN
7/19/1944 41 163 EADIE J. S/SGT LWG 31903 SCHWEINFURT & DUREN
7/19/1944 41 163 WELLS E.R. SGT RWG 31903 SCHWEINFURT & DUREN
7/19/1944 41 163 PRINCE H. CPL BTG 31903 SCHWEINFURT & DUREN
7/19/1944 41 163 GRIFFIN L.J. T/SGT ROG 31903 SCHWEINFURT & DUREN
7/19/1944 41 163 FINCHER A.B. LT NAV 31903 SCHWEINFURT & DUREN
7/19/1944 41 163 RIES R.E. LT CP 31903 SCHWEINFURT & DUREN
7/19/1944 41 163 JONES E.C. LT P 31903 SCHWEINFURT & DUREN
7/19/1944 41 163 MORAN F.J. SGT TTE 31903 SCHWEINFURT & DUREN

7/20/1944 41 164 PRINCE H. CPL BTG 102657 MERSEBURG
7/20/1944 41 164 FINCHER A.B. LT NAV 102657 MERSEBURG
7/20/1944 41 164 CASSELL J.R. SGT TG 102657 MERSEBURG
7/20/1944 41 164 EADIE J. S/SGT LWG 102657 MERSEBURG
7/20/1944 41 164 WELLS E.R. SGT RWG 102657 MERSEBURG
7/20/1944 41 164 RAMER C.A. LT BOM 102657 MERSEBURG
7/20/1944 41 164 JONES E.C. LT P 102657 MERSEBURG
7/20/1944 41 164 RIES R.E. LT CP 102657 MERSEBURG
7/20/1944 41 164 GRIFFIN L.J. T/SGT ROG 102657 MERSEBURG
7/20/1944 41 164 MORAN F.J. SGT TTE 102657 MERSEBURG

7/24/1944 41 166 GRIFFIN L.J. T/SGT ROG 31903 ST LO (GND SUPPORT)
7/24/1944 41 166 CASSELL J.R. SGT TG 31903 ST LO (GND SUPPORT)
7/24/1944 41 166 EADIE J. S/SGT LWG 31903 ST LO (GND SUPPORT)
7/24/1944 41 166 WELLS E.R. SGT RWG 31903 ST LO (GND SUPPORT)
7/24/1944 41 166 MORAN F.J. SGT TTE 31903 ST LO (GND SUPPORT)
7/24/1944 41 166 RAMER C.A. LT BOM 31903 ST LO (GND SUPPORT)
7/24/1944 41 166 FINCHER A.B. LT NAV 31903 ST LO (GND SUPPORT)
7/24/1944 41 166 RIES R.E. LT CP 31903 ST LO (GND SUPPORT)
7/24/1944 41 166 JONES E.C. LT P 31903 ST LO (GND SUPPORT)
7/24/1944 41 166 PRINCE H. CPL BTG 31903 ST LO (GND SUPPORT)

7/25/1944 41 167 CASSELL J.R. SGT TG 31903 ST LO (GND SUPPORT)
7/25/1944 41 167 EADIE J. S/SGT LWG 31903 ST LO (GND SUPPORT)
7/25/1944 41 167 PRINCE H. CPL BTG 31903 ST LO (GND SUPPORT)
7/25/1944 41 167 RAMER C.A. LT BOM 31903 ST LO (GND SUPPORT)
7/25/1944 41 167 FINCHER A.B. LT NAV 31903 ST LO (GND SUPPORT)
7/25/1944 41 167 RIES R.E. LT CP 31903 ST LO (GND SUPPORT)
7/25/1944 41 167 JONES E.C. LT P 31903 ST LO (GND SUPPORT)
7/25/1944 41 167 GRIFFIN L.J. T/SGT ROG 31903 ST LO (GND SUPPORT)
7/25/1944 41 167 MORAN F.J. SGT TTE 31903 ST LO (GND SUPPORT)

7/28/1944 41 168 GRIFFIN L.J. T/SGT ROG 31903 MERSEBURG
7/28/1944 41 168 CASSELL J.R. SGT TG 31903 MERSEBURG
7/28/1944 41 168 WELLS E.R. S/SGT LWG 31903 MERSEBURG
7/28/1944 41 168 MORAN F.J. SGT TTE 31903 MERSEBURG
7/28/1944 41 168 RAMER C.A. LT BOM 31903 MERSEBURG
7/28/1944 41 168 FINCHER A.B. LT NAV 31903 MERSEBURG
7/28/1944 41 168 RIES R.E. LT CP 31903 MERSEBURG
7/28/1944 41 168 JONES E.C. LT P 31903 MERSEBURG
7/28/1944 41 168 PRINCE H. CPL BTG 31903 MERSEBURG


CREW as it appears in MACR # 7811
1st  Lt  Eden C. Jones              P   KIA  29 Jul 44 Merserburg  Mission 
2nd Lt Robert E.Ries                CP  KIA  29 Jul 44 Merserburg  Mission 
2nd Lt Albert B.Fincher,Jr.       NAV   POW 29 Jul 44 Merserburg  Mission   
1st Lt Cordy A.Ramer,Jr.         BOM  POW 29 Jul 44 Merserburg  Mission 
T/Sgt Leo J.Griffin                ROG  KIA  29 Jul 44 Merserburg  Mission 
T/Sgt James Eadie                TTE  KIA      29 Jul 44 Merserburg  Mission 
S/Sgt Harold J.Prince             BTG  KIA     29 Jul 44 Merserburg  Mission 
S/Sgt Frank J. Moran,Jr.           WG   POW/WIA 29 Jul 44 Merserburg  Mission  
S/Sgt Jerry R.Cassell                 TG   POW   29 Jul 44 Merserburg  Mission 

Original Bombardier was 2nd Lt Ferrel O. Mason 

Above crew as it appears on MACR#7811.  Cordy Ramer was on the crew of J.S.Giles when it joined the 100th BG on 7/4/44. On 8/7/44  Sgts Fugene, Wells & Richard D.Hawkins were on this crew as gunners. Wells CPT on 12/12/44 & Hawkins KIA on 28/7/44 with crew of W..G. Stansbury    Moran says crew arrived at Thorpe Abbotts 15 May 1944 as above.  Letter from Cassell 19/11/90 says Moran was TTE not WG. Cassell letter of 21/6/91 says Cordy Ramer replaced the original BOM,Ferrel O.Mason. also that Eugene R.Wells was on crew when it came to the 100th but removed to reduce crew to nine men. 

MACR #7811,Microfiche #2858      A/C #42-31903

From MACR: "No definite information concerning the loss of this A/C is available. The leader of the squadron was forced to jettison his bombs short of the target because of flak damage. The formation broke up and all the aircraft except the leader were lost to E/A." 

German reports indicate this A/C was shot down at 1055 hours near Wuelfingerode and both Ries and Prince were interred in Graves #. 1 & #2. It contunues that two (2) unknown dead were buried in graves #3 & #4.  These presumably were, Leo J. Griffin and James Eadie.  Evidently Lt Jones died sometime later from his wounds..

1st  Lt  Eden C. Jones             P    KIA  29 Jul 44 Merseburg  
2nd Lt Robert E.Ries               CP  KIA   29 Jul 44 Merseburg
2nd Lt Albert B.Fincher,Jr.      NAV   POW  29 Jul 44 Merseburg  
1st Lt Cordy A.Ramer,Jr.         BOM  POW  29 Jul 44 Merseburg
T/Sgt Leo J.Griffin                ROG  KIA    29 Jul 44 Merseburg
T/Sgt James Eadie                TTE  KIA     29 Jul 44 Merseburg
S/Sgt Harold J.Prince             BTG  KIA     29 Jul 44 Merseburg
S/Sgt Frank J. Moran,Jr.           WG   POW/WIA  29 Jul 44 Merseburg 
S/Sgt Jerry R.Cassell                  TG   POW  29 Jul 44 Merseburg 

350th Sqdn   .Above crew as it appears on MACR#7811.  Cordy Ramer was on the crew of J.S.Giles when it joined the 100th BG on 7/4/44. On 8/7/44  Sgts Fugene Wells & Richard D.Hawkins were on this crew as gunners. Wells CPT on 12/12/44 & Hawkins KIA on 28/7/44 with crew of W..G. Stansbury    Moran says crew arrived at Thorpe Abbotts 15 May 1944 as above. Letter from Cassell 19/11/90 says Moran was TTE not WG. Cassell letter of 21/6/91 says Cordy Ramer replaced the original BOM,Ferrell O.Mason. Also that Eugene R.Wells was on crew when it came to the 100th but removed to reduce crew to nine men. Wells appears on the Kassebaum crew as a WG.

MACR #7811,Microfiche #2858      A/C #42-31903

From MACR: "No definite information concerning the loss of this A/C is available. The leader of the squadron was forced to jettison his bombs short of the target because of flak damage. The formation broke up and all the aircraft except the leader were lost to E/A." 

German reports indicate this A/C was shot down at 1055 hours near Wuelfingerode and both Ries and Prince were interred in Graves #. 1 & #2. It contunues that two (2) unknown dead were buried in graves #3 & #4.  These presumably were, Leo J. Griffin and James Eadie.  Evidently Lt Jones died sometime later from his wounds..

Lt. Gunter Note: from Harry Crosby in 1993
Charlie Gunter came to the 100th on the John S. Giles crew. When he left the crew to become Squadron Navigator, they went down of the bad Ruhland mission. (11 Sep 1944) For all these years, he was out of touch-- and looking for us. It was only when he heard about my book through a University of Texas publication that he wrote me, learned of our Association, and heard for the first time that Giles, and their gunner, Albert Pela had become POW's. Now Charlie is back in touch and, and you will meet him in Little Rock.
 When Charlie left the 100th after his tour, for a year he was an instructor and the Base Intelligence Officer at Selman Navigation School. He then went to the Philippines and Japan for a year, serving with G-1 Far East Headquarters. Deciding not to remain in the Air Force, he returned to Washington, D.C., and graduated from Benjamin Franklin University in 1950 with an accounting degree.
 He became a Special Agent for the FBI. He served in Baltimore, Little Rock, Denver, and Springfield, Illinois. For the last 25 years with the FBI he was the Senior Resident Agent in Casper, Wyoming. Retired for 20 years, he enjoys what he calls "F & E" living, (Free and Easy). For the last five years he has been living in Flagstaff, Arizona, "in good health for a man 75 years old."  Taken from Splasher Six --  fall 1993.

Combat sorties of Lt. Charlie Gunter, Jr.  0-699160 for the year 1944

1. Leipzig    Apr 12
2. Augsburg   Apr 13
3. Berlin    Apr 18
4. Lippstadt   Apr 19
5. Sarreguemines   May 1
6. Berlin    May 7
7. Berlin    May 8 
8. Ahies/Laon   May 9 
9. Osnabruck   May 13
10. Troyes    May 23
11. Osnabruck   May 31
12. Coast of France  Jun 6
13. Nantes    Jun 7
14. Le Culot   Jun 14
15. Wilster    Jun 15
16. Ecluse    Jun 19
17. Fallersleben   Jun 20
18. Munich    Jul 12
19. South of France  Jul 14
20. Auxerre   Jul 17
21. Le Fere   Aug 2
22. Northern France  Aug 7
23. Politz    Aug 29
24. Mainz    Sep 1
25. Ruhland   Sep 11
26. Ludwigshaven   Sep 25
27. Kassel    Oct 2
28. Berlin    Oct 6
29. Ludwigshaven   Nov 5
30 Kaiserlautern   Dec 25. 
   -30-


Aug. 8, 1994

I am enclosing for you the following documents 
which reveal the sum of my 4½ years of military service.

1. Honorable discharge as enlisted man, AUS, to 
accept commission as 2nd Lt. AUS, SN 13070347,as enlisted 
man, 0-6991602 as officer, Navigator. Note was at this time 
was rated aerial gunner with wings received at Tyndall 
Field, Fla.

2. Record of combat sorties for year 1944 during which 
time I served with the 100th Bomb GP, 350 Squadron, 8th AF. 30 
missions completed and returned to U. S.

3. Letter of recommendation from Harry H. Crosby, Group 
Navigator, furnished to me at time of departure from ETO. Our 
base was Thorpe Abbots. Paragraphs 1, 2, & 3 set forth details of 
my duties during this period.

4. Order, Far East AF Headquarters, Tokyo, Japan noting 
award of an aFmy Commendation Ribbon for service with G-2, 
Far East Headquarters, 1946- 1947.

5. Certificate of Service, AUS, Dec. 1943 to March 
1947. Record of service on reverse.

6. Honorable Discharge as Major, USAFR, 26 9ept. 
1956.

This is a complete record of my military service, en 
capsule.

For personal information, the crew of John S.JILES, Jr. was 
formed at Ardmore Air Force Base, Ardmore, Okla. You have the narnes of all 
the crew in your other record.

We flew to Grand Island, Nebraska where we picked up a 
new B-17G bomber. After calibrating the instruments and checking 
all equipment, we flew to Prestwick, Scotland via New Hampshire, 
Goose Bay, Labrador, Meeks Field, Iceland, to Prestwick, Scotland.

In England we spent two weeks at Bovingdon AFB, in southern England for
in theater training, including for me, training in the use of the GEE
navigational system.

We were then assigned to the 100th BG at Thorpe  Abbotts.

When we arrived there, due to a shortage of 
Navigators, I was assigned to the crew of Delbert E. Pearson, Pilot 
for four missions (Leipzig, Augsburg, Berlin, and Lippstadt. We 
flew it an old B-17F, No. 413, named Hard Luck.

Later, with Giles crew, we were assigned a B-17G, 
which the crew named LEADING LADY.

As you can see by Harry Crosby's letter, we became a lead 
crew, and I was promoted to Squadron Navigator, later Command 
Navigator.

After I returned to the States, I was assigned to 
Monroe, La. Navigation Training School until the war was over.

I was then assigned to G-2, Far East Headquarters, 
serving in the Phillippines for two months, and then the rest of my 
service in Tokyo. Japan.

For comedy, I was called REVEREND by my crew, and 
this was painted on the front of my  leather flightjacket.

I think all of this information is tne gist of my 
recall, and should complete your records for the most part.

If you need anything else, let me know and I'll see 
what I can do.

Charlie E. Gunter, Jr. 

EMAIL = KaWest@centurytel.net
UNAME = Ken Westerman
DIED = Charles E Gunter, Jr
DEATH_DATE = 14 June 2002
UNIT = 350th
COMMENTS = Charles E Gunter, Jr. Retired Major and Navigator, 8th Air Force Abbott. With the 100th BG. 350th Bomb Sqd. Age 84. Under the crew of John S. Giles, Jr. Charlie was a great admirer of both Harry Crosby and Rosie Rosenthal. Charlie, retired with the US FBI about 8 years ago. His still had his A2 jacket and all the book and information regarding the 100th BG Place of interment, Mt Home, AR, His pet aircraft were, "Hard Luck" - Fletchers Castoria and Leading Lady."Thank you. KenW

CREW

2nd Lt John M.Shelly               P       POW   11/9/44    RUHLAND        (WITH J. GILES CREW)
 2nd Lt Albert Skaar              CP        CPT    25/7/44    ST LO, GROUND SUPPORT
2nd Lt Michael W Spiller       NAV      CPT    25/7/44    ST LO, GROUND SUPPORT
2nd Lt Edward A.Fayette     BOM      SWA    17/7/44   AUXERRE
S/Sgt Edward D.Lowther      TTE      POW   29/7/44   MERSEBURG     (Wlth crew of G.H.Steussy)         TAPS: 1982
S/Sgt Gilbert R.Trunkett       ROG      CPT    24/7/44   ST LO, GROUND SUPPORT                                TAPS: 1 FEB 1955
 Sgt Victor H.Harikian            BTG      CPT    25/7/44   ST LO, GROUND SUPPORT
Sgt Joseph P.O'Donnell         WG      POW   29/7/44   MERSEBURG      (With crew of W.T.Fitzroy) see memo below
 Sgt Ralph H.Bates                TG      CPT     17/7/44   AUXERRE
 Sgt Gordon Winkler             WG      CPT      24/7/44    ST LO, GROUND SUPPORT

350th Sqdn. Crew,as above,joined the 100th Group on 9/3/44   Shelly flying as CP for J.S.Giles,Jr. on 11/9/44.  Lt Sterling "Pete" Lambert (from Lt Giles Crew) took over as 1st pilot on this Crew after June 20, 1944.

MEMO 2:

Cordy A. Ramer, Jr. (March 1, 1920 - October 31,2015)

Cordy A. Ramer, Jr., 95, of Fordyce passed away on October 31, 2015 at the Green House Cottages of Southern Hills in Rison surrounded by his immediate family. C.A was born March 1, 1920, to Cordy A. Ramer, Sr. and Susan Tiner Ramer. 
He graduated from England High School in 1937, then attended Arkansas Tech in Russellville and Arkansas State Teachers College (now UCA) in Conway for two years. He worked in an aircraft factory until 1942 when he enlisted in the Army Air Force. 
On October 7, 1943, he married Evelyn McGarity of Lonoke, AR. They just celebrated their 72nd anniversary. 
C.A. was trained and qualified to be a bombardier during World War II. He was assigned to the 8th Air Force, 100th Bomb Group, 350th Bomb Squadron located at Thorpe Abbots, England. On July 29, 1944, on his 29th mission they were bombing oil refineries at Messerberg, Germany when the plane was hit by German fighter planes and shot down. Six on board lost their lives and the remaining four had to parachute at 25,000 feet. He was captured and spent nine months in a German prison camp. 
After his military discharge, C.A. taught school for six years before moving to Fayetteville where he attended the University of Arkansas, receiving his B.A. degree in Agriculture in 1953 and a Master's Degree in Agricultural Education in 1954. He became employed by the U of A Cooperative Extension Service where in 1955 he was appointed Extension Service Staff Chairman for Dallas County. He retired in 1983 and was awarded a Professor Emeritus status from the U of A in 1995. 
C.A. was community involved, being a member of the Farm Bureau more than 50 years and the Dallas County Farm Bureau Board of Directors over 25 years. He assisted the Dallas County Fair Association for more than 50 years and a building on the fairgrounds was named in his honor (C.A. Ramer Exhibit Hall). In 2003, he was selected as the Arkansas Fair Managers Association Hall of Fame Award Winner. 
C.A. was a long time member of the Fordyce Lion's Club. In 1996, he was presented the community service award by the Fordyce Chamber of Commerce for service above and beyond the call of duty to the city of Fordyce. 
Since arriving in Fordyce, C.A and Evelyn have been faithful members of the First Baptist Church where they have been active with the "Keenagers" group. 
Mr. Ramer was preceded in death by his parents; sisters Abby Kemp and Bobbie Thomas; and daughter-in-law, JoAnn Ramer. Survivors include his wife, Evelyn Ramer of Fordyce; three sons, C.A Ramer of Birmingham, AL, John (Jan) Ramer of Fordyce, and David (Tena) Ramer of Heber Springs; twelve grandchildren; twenty one great-grandchildren; and five great-great grandchildren. 
The family will receive friends Thursday November 5, 2015 from 10:00 a.m. until service time at First Baptist Church in Fordyce. Funeral services will be 11:00 a.m. Thursday at First Baptist Church with Rev. Rusty Ross officiating. Burial will be 3:00 p.m. Thursday at Plumerville Cemetery in Plumerville with Rev. Bill Brown officiating. In lieu of flowers, the family requests that memorials be made to the First Baptist Church in Fordyce, 501 North Main, Fordyce, AR 71742. Arrangements are by Benton Funeral Home of Fordyce. To sign the online register visit www.bentonfuneralhome.net.

KIA / MIA / EVA / INT INFORMATION:

TARGET: Merseburg DATE: 1944-07-29  
AIRCRAFT: "Hard Luck II" (42-31903) CAUSE: EAC  

BURIAL INFORMATION

PLOT: ROW:  
GRAVE: CEMETERY:  
ID: 4280