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CAPT  Jack L. GAY

UNIT: 351st BOMB Sqdn POSITION: P
SERIAL #: STATUS: CPT
MACR:

Comments1: 4 MAR 45 ULM

COMMENTS & NOTES

MEMO 1:

CREW

2nd Lt Jack L.Gay                      P       CPT   4 MAR 45   ULM  (flew a total of 33 missions)
2nd Lt James W. Knowles.         CP      CPT   See note below
2nd Lt Warren R.Jones              NAV   CPT   4 MAR 45   ULM
F/0 Bernard LaBrie                    BOM   CPT   4 MAR 45   ULM
S/Sgt Raymond J.Rasmuson       ROG   CPT   4 MAR 45   ULM
S/Sgt Herman F.Eckmeyer         TTE   POW 31 JAN 44 HAMBURG (With W.G.Wilson crew, see below)
   Sgt Leonard L.Lombardo        BTG   CPT   4 MAR 45   ULM
   Sgt John M. McDowell            WG    POW  DATE UKN (replace by Sgt N. Perovich from Monrad and Drummund Crews)  see below  
   Sgt Dana V.Cable                   WG    CPT 20 JAN 45  HEIBRON, MY (S.T.)
   Pvt Donald G.Fagen                TG     CPT   4 MAR 45   ULM 

351st Sqdn.  Crew,as above,joined the 100th Group on 2/8/44.

It is probable that to reduce to a nine man crew Sgt.Cable was shifted to another crew.
S/Sgt Herman F. Eckmeyer  from the Jack Gay crew flew with the Wallace G. Wilson crew on the 31 Dec 44 Hamburg mission, replacing Lt. Brewin.

"According to a letter from Norm Graham,navigator of the P.B.Batterman crew, Batterman broke an arm  after joining the 100th on 5/10/44 and Jim Knowles was assigned as pilot of the Batterman crew. Knowles and most of the Batterman stayed together until completion of their tour."
(I believe this is wrong, after the Dec 31,st 1944 mission to Hamburg, the Batterman Crew with Knowles as pilot was broken up, with members  going to Lt Hutchinson's Lead Crew and Lt Garrison's Crew.  I have only two records of Lt Knowles flying as 1st pilot after Dec 31, 1944, one on March 17, 1945 to Plauen and one the following day March 18, 1945 flying 503  LN-A, an a/c from the 350th BS to Berlin.  My best guess for this big lapse of time is that Knowles may have gone back to Lt Gay Crew as CP from Jan 5-March 4, 1945 or been ill?  Only loading lists for Lt. Gay Crew in Jan/Feb 45 can answer that question,,,,mpf 2006)   

 
COMPLETE MISSIONS OF LT GAY (with Lt Knowles as CP until Nov 26, 1944)) 

      Date       Last Name Initial Rank Position Aircraft # and Name                       Target
1.   8/24/1944 GAY J.L.           LT    P          37521  SKYWAY CHARIOT              RUHLAND (OIL)
2.   8/25/1944 GAY J.L.           LT    P          37936  ALL AMERICAN GIRL             POLITZ (OIL)
3.   8/26/1944 GAY J.L.           LT    P          38047  INNOCENT BYSTANDER        BREST
4.   8/27/1944 GAY J.L.           LT    P          31412  MASON & DIXON                  BERLIN (RECALL)
5.   9/08/1944 GAY J.L.           LT    P          37812  PATRIOTIC PATTY               MAINZ
6.   9/18/1944 GAY J.L.           LT    P          37812  PATRIOTIC PATTY               WARSAW (2nd RUSSIAN SHUTTLE)
7.   9/19/1944 GAY J.L.           LT    P          37812  PATRIOTIC PATTY               SZOLNOK (FROM RUSSIA)
     9/22/1944 GAY J.L.           LT    P          37812  PATRIOTIC PATTY          CREWS RETURN FROM RUSSIAN SHUTTLE
8.   9/30/1944 GAY J.L.           LT    P          37812   PATRIOTIC PATTY              BIELEFELD
9.   10/12/1944 GAY J.L.         LT    P                                                                  BREMEN, GERMANY Bremen
10. 11/02/1944 GAY J.L.         LT    P                                                                  MERSEBURG, GERMANY 
11. 11/26/1944 GAY J.L.         LT    P                                                                  HAMM, GERMANY 
12. 11/29/1944 GAY J.L.         LT    P                                                                  HAMM, GERMANY
13. 12/05/1944 GAY J.L.         LT    P            48209  THE BRASS HAT                    BERLIN
14. 12/11/1944 GAY J.L.         LT    P            48209  THE BRASS HAT                    GIESSEN/KOBLENZ
15. 12/12/1944 GAY J.L.         LT    P            Flew Another Squdron Plane              DARMSTADT
16. 12/24/1944 GAY J.L.         LT    P            48209  THE BRASS HAT                    BIBLIS
17. 12/27/1944 GAY J.L.         LT    P            38610   EP-T PFF                              FULDA
18. 12/30/1944 GAY J.L.         LT    P                                                                  KASSEL, GERMANY
19. 12/31/1944 GAY J.L.         LT    P            38514   EP-J  E-Z GOIN                      HAMBURG, GERMANY
       1/05/1945 GAY J.L.         LT    P             46613   LN-T (OXYGEN LEAK)            FRANKFURT 
20.   1/06/1945 GAY J.L.        LT    P             38770   EP-?                                   GERMERSHEIM/ANNWEILER
21.   1/10/1945 GAY J.L.        LT    P             38610   EP-T PFF                             DUISBURG
22.   1/28/1945 GAY J.L.        LT    P             38861   SWEET NANCY II                 DUISBURG
23.   1/29/1945 GAY J.L.        LT    P             38610   EP-T PFF                             KASSEL
24.   2/03/1945 GAY J.L.        LT    P             48616   LD-Z                                   BERLIN
25.   2/09/1945 GAY J.L.        LT    P            31708   SKIPPER II                           BOHLEN/WEIMAR (ABORTED)
26.   2/19/1945 GAY J.L.         LT    P                                                                 OSNABRUCK
27.   2/21/1945 GAY J.L.         LT    P            38852   EP-N                                   NURNBURG
28.   2/22/1945 GAY J.L.         LT    P            38852   EP-N                                   KITZINGEN, (blew tire did not take off)
29.   2/23/1945 GAY J.L.         LT    P            38852   EP-N                                   TREUCHTLINGEN
30.   2/25/1945 GAY J.L.         LT    P            38852   EP-N                                   MUNICH
31.   2/28/1945 GAY J.L.         LT    P            38852   EP-N                                   KASSEL
32.   3/02/1945 GAY J.L.         LT    P            38852   EP-N                                   RUHLAND
33.   3/04/1945 GAY J.L.         LT    P            38852   EP-N                                   ULM  (COMPLETED TOUR-33 MISSIONS)
                                   


My dad, Jack L. Gay, is still alive and living on his own.

Your incomplete list of missions lists some of the planes he flew.

There are pictures of a few of these on his web page .

         Http://ourgalsal.com/   [ this has copy of his missions ]

You have the Jack Gay crew  in  front of the Our Gal Sal   but
do not list it as a plane used on a mission.  This is wrong.  Dad  did  
fly Our Gal Sal several times.
Also --- dad flew a plane  named   MafKing - N   in England which you  
do not list.

He found the plane in Lubbock as a war weary  before it was sent  on   
to Kingman.Dad climbed into MafKing and has the name tag from the control column.

I have additional high quality crew pictures which will probably never  
be loaded to the web page.
Not sure if these will be released in future or not.

William Gay  [ Son of Jack L Gay ]  w.gay@sbcglobal.net
wlgay1@gmail.com

Dad said the Russians  were crazy.   When loading the bombs for the  
return trip, they drove up and just rolled the bombs
off the back of a truck onto the ground.   The American jeeps the  
Russians were driving were "made in Russia" according to them.

Looking through the AAF Form #5,  I see dad flying planes from    
Lubbock to Kingman -  Nov 1945. Wow --- I can trace his missions on the  
AAF form No 5 and the type of  planes flown  [B25,C47,B17,trainer, etc ]  .

I just found a promotion form to  " Captain, Air Corps "     February  
18th,  1946 with an official stamp on it.
I see his honorable discharge  has a  Dec 4, 1943 date [ oops - his  
last combat mission was March 1945  ] .
His discharge from the Air Reserves was dated September 28, 1957 on  
the cover letter.
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The following  comments were revised after a telephone conversation with
my dad, Jack L. Gay on Sunday February 7,  2010 and Monday
February 8, 2010 Regarding Berlin Feb 3, 1945 Mission:
------------------------------------
Jack commented that Rosie had big strong hands and he had great
control of a B 17 in the air.   Jack flew with Rosie one time.  Rosie
sat in the copilot seat.   Rosie flew some and he had Jack  fly  various
turns and maneuvers.  Jack never did learn why.

Jack frequently flew the high element lead.   He was flying
high element lead on the Berlin flight (Feb 3, 1945) when Rosie was
hit by flak.   There was a 100 mph tail wind. This
made the bomber group arrive there early.  Rosie was flying
group lead and Jack was flying high element lead.   Dad was
a little behind and a little above Rosie's  B17.

As the group approached Berlin, all the little gas tanks
[ the small gas tanks were sometimes called Tokyo tanks]
were drained into the 4 main gas tanks.  As the bomb group
came up on the IP [ Initial Point ]- the high element shifted
over  to the left  a little and down a little.
This spread out the formation for the bomb run.
So after spreading out for the bomb run Jack was behind
and a little above Rosie's left wingman.

As the bombers came up over the edge of Berlin, the anti-aircraft
guns started firing.  Rosie's left wingman took a direct hit in his
right wing next to the fuselage.  Jack doubted that any one
escaped as the right wing was blown off and the B17 immediately
fell.   Flak then hit Rosie's B17  and Jack's B17. Jack did not
know Rosie's B17 had been hit.

A 88 shell  went through Jacks #3  main wing tank and
opened up the top of the wing.  Jack thought the #3 tank held
about 400 gallons  of gas.  Planes behind Jack reported flying
through  a cloud of gasoline.  Underneath tank #3 was a red hot
turbocharger.   Some of the 100 octane gas  ran inside the
fuselage of the B17.  The ball turret gunner  [ Leonard Lombardo ]
claimed he was dry cleaned by the high  octane fuel in his
ball turret.  There were all kinds of motors and relays active
inside the B17.   The crew shouted out to not do anything to cause a  
spark.

The loss of the gas in tank #3 meant engine #3 died for lack of fuel.
More gas could have been transferred to tank #3
but the  big holes in the tank would immediately empty the tank.

Jack and Rosie stayed in formation and dropped bombs.
Once the bombs were dropped,  Jack  dropped out of formation.
Jack's navigator wanted to head  to Sweden.  Sweden was only
about 30 minutes away and they would be held there for the rest of the  
war.

Jack  chose to risk flying back against the 100 mph head wind.  He had
a wing opened up where the 88 shell exited tank #3 and he
only had 3 engines.   The B17 was put into a slow power glide toward
England.  The fuel mixture was leaned out as much as possible.

Once over the North Sea, everything that was loose   was thrown out.
They flew from one rescue ship to the next.  Near the shore
the last rescue ship  advised Jack to ditch while they still had  some control.
The gas gauges were bouncing on empty.   Two little English fighters  
came out to meet Jack.  Seeing the two little fighters Jack decided to follow  
them in to their small landing field.   The crew were in ditching position in  
the radio cabin.  Jack came in too high so he put it in a steep dive and pulled out at  
the last minute hitting the ground hard.   Once the wheels touched down, Jack  
raised the tail up to put all the force of the wings on the tires as he  
locked the brakes.It was a hard landing and the crew in back could only assume  it was  
a crash. Lombardo [ ball turret gunner ] said he got out and kissed the ground.


1-- talked to dad several times about the British fighter escort on  
Feb 3 to the short landing field.he had no knowledge or idea what type  of airplane they  
were they were flying together - one right off the others  wing and  "small" they came out as he neared shore and led him directly to  
the short landing field


2 -   I asked several times if he saw any thing else during Feb 3 flight  He  saw no one else get hit He dropped out of  formation once he dropped his  bombs.   However ---- he did mention as they got over the North Sea they saw something disturbing  [ I had never  
heard this before ] they saw another B17 about a thousand feet below them and the crew bailed out over the North Sea  
and the plane kept flying around ----- Jack thought it strange the pilot did not have the men jump over land rather into the  North Sea

3-  note again Jack's crew was in ditching position when he landed and when Jack hit the ground hard - he was sure the crew thought  
they had  ditched in the water



He also talked a little about the 2nd Russian Shuttle Mission. 
I will see if I can assemble some details & comments  on the Feb 3 rd flight &
may be the Russian Shuttle Mission. I doubt that we could make the meeting.  
It is something that there will be 10 B 17s.
I have ridding in the Texas Raiders for about 30 minutes.  I have crawled through
the  Thunder Bird and the Arizona Wings plane - Sentimental Journey. 


Wlg




Monday August 16, 2010


My dad, Jack L. Gay, called this afternoon.   He had been out much of the day mowing with his 
John Deere tractor.  He is 89 and lives on 20 acres by himself. 
While he was mowing down in "back" he got to thinking about his first co-pilot,
James  W. Knowles.  Dad said   " James was a great pilot".  James had been
a flight instructor and apparently wanted to fly combat missions.  Jack and James
 joined up as crew members state side.   Some of their  training was at Dyersburg
 [ Tennessee] Army Air Base  [ DAAB}.   While landing on one of the Dyersburg's 
  training missions, their  B17 was caught in prop wash and the a wing flipped up
 so that the other wing was about to dig into the ground.  Both Jack and James exactly
 at the same time grabbed the controls and in perfect coordination brought the wing
 down to make a successful landing.  


My dad said he learned a lot of things from James and James made him a better pilot.
 Dad said James was very respectful and never hesitated when given any command.  


Dad said the Air Force tried to make a lead pilot out of him [ Jack } but for some reason
 it did not work out.  I believe Jack may have flown as lead pilot for the entire group one time. 
 However Jack  did end up flying as the lead pilot for the high element.  


Dad and his ball turret gunner, Leonard L. Lombardo, have tried to locate James 
W. Knowles a couple of times in the past.   


Can you help us in finding James W Knowles?  Is he still alive?  Do you know anything about 
what James did after the war and where he went?


Any help would be greatly appreciated.  


William Gay  
wlgay1@gmail.com
son of Jack L. Gay  


PS.  We currently know  3 of the Jack L Gay crew are still alive. 
         Leonard  L. Lombardo  lives out in California. 
         Donald G Fagen lives in Iowa, but does not  remember Leonard or Jack. 
         Jack Gay still drives to town frequently, lives on his own, feeds the birds and 
         cares for the 20 acres he has called home since 1957. 
        


============ more Knowles  ==========================


Jack  Notes from  July 14, 2010 


mission Russia to Italy -- lombard could see a fluid leaking
under /around engine # 2   
  flew across Ugoslavia ?
when got to Italy to land -- landing planes one after another
when applied the  brakes - there were none 


Knowles was copilot - he was very good 
Jack yelled to release the tail wheel lock
Jack shut off the left engines and the plane 
made a big ground loop to the left out of the way of 
other planes 
Knoles thought that was brilliantly executed


I have heard this exact account repeated at least 3 times. 


Regarding  Merseburg  mission 11/2/1944 
Jack said they were told the Germans had a 1000 flak
guns there.  When he got there - there was flak
everywhere
[ I believe originally in previous notes - Jack said
he normally was very calm but he said  a B17 in front of 
him got  hit  - it  lit  up  from wing tip to wing tip and it was 
gone




Talking with Jack  July 14,  2010
about being scared he said he saw a B17 at Munich
get hit and  vanish  -- that it scared him


not 100 percent sure if these were 2 events or time has shifted the memory to Munich he seemed very sure of Munich on July 14,2010 and did not immediately remember the plane  hit scaring him  at Merseburg although the memory of  the 1000 flak guns  was immediately repeated and he said something  like Merseburg was a wild and crazy mission



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NOTE 1: 

Lt Knowles as 1st Pilot with Lt Batterman Crew.  (Knowles first mission with this crew was Nov 26, 1944)

2nd Lt James W. Knowles      P
F/0 Raymond Stiller               CP  
2nd Lt Norman Graham         NAV 
2nd Lt Arthur R.Zemeke       BOM 
   Cpl Thomas H.Fagan          ROG 
   Cpl Robert B.May               TTE  
   Cpl Reid G.Jensen             WG  
   Cpl Leon E.Hebert,Jr         BTG  
   Cpl Elmer F.Hooper            TG  

Missions of Lt James W. Knowles Crew

26/11/44     HAMM
02/12/44     KOBLENZ            42-31708      SKIPPER II
05/12/44     BERLIN               42-31708      SKIPPER II
30/12/44     KASSEL              42-31767      OUR GAL SAL
31/12/44     HAMBURG           42-31530      QUITTIN' TIME
17/03/45     PLAUEN              42-31530      QUITTIN' TIME 
18/03/45     BERLIN                44-8503      "BABY BUNTY"            



CREW
2nd Lt Paul B.Batterman                        P   CPT   6/4/45 LEIPZIG (CP on Capt. Hutchinson Lead Crew) SEE BELOW
F/0 Raymond Stiller                           CP   CPT
2nd Lt Norman "The Kid" Graham      NAV  CPT                         (NAV on Capt Hutchinson Lead Crew) SEE BELOW  TAPS: 1989      
2nd Lt Arthur R.Zemske                   BOM  CPT  6/4/45 LEIPZIG (BOM on Capt. Hutchinson Lead Crew) SEE BELOW
   Cpl Thomas H.Fagan                     ROG  CPT  TAPS: 1/24/89 (ROG on Capt. Hutchinson Lead Crew) SEE BELOW
   Cpl Robert B.May                          TTE   CPT  TAPS: 11/14/80 (went to Lt Garrison Crew after Dec 31, 1944)
   Cpl Reid G.Jensen                        WG   CPT  TAPS:  1/8/80
   Cpl Leon E.Hebert,Jr.                   BTG  CPT  (originally LWG)
   Cpl Elmer F.Hooper                       TG   CPT 20 APR 45 ORANIENBURG  (went to Lt Garrison Crew)
   Cpl Robert C.Mackey                    WG   NOC   (originally BTG)

351st Sqdn. Crew,as above,joined 100th Group on 5/10/44. 

From a letter from Norm Graham dated 24/3/83 we learn: ". . . . Batterman broke arm  bicycle  soon after crew joined 100th.  Lt Jim Knowles (from Lt Gay Crew) was assigned as our pilot and we all flew together for a few missions.  Zemske & Graham then placed on the crew 
of Dave Hutchinson. Later,  Batterman joined the Hutchinson crew as CP and Tom Fagan as ROG.  Finished tour.  Ray Stiller, Bob May, Reid Jensen, Leon Hebert and Elmer Hooper stayed with Lt Knowles crew and flew 5 missions.  After Dec. 31, 1944 mission to Hamburg,  the crew is broken up, with Graham, Zemske, and Fagan going to Lt Hutchinson's Lead Crew and May and Hooper going to  Lt Garrisons Crew.  I have only two records of Lt Knowles flying as 1st pilot after Dec 31, 1944, one on March 17, 1945 and one the following day March 18, 1945 flying 503  LN-A, an a/c from the 350th BS to Berlin.  

No memory of Robt.Mackey after reaching England. He probably was removed to reduce crew to nine men. James W.Knowles was original CP on crew of Jack L.Gay.  Lt Batterman also flew some missions as co-pilot on Lt Streich Crew…(from Leon Schwartz-Streich Crew)


CREW

2ND LT DAVID E. HUTCHINSON            P CPT 08 APR 45 EGER (CZECH)  TAPS: 1975
2ND LT ROBERT L. RICHARDSON           CP KIA 31 DEC 44  HAMBURG (BURIED CAMBRIDGE, ENG.)
F/O      RODMAN B. PORTER             NAV RFS
2ND LT ALFRED V. PATERNO            BOM ASSIGNED  TO LEAD CREW OF JESSIE WOFFORD
T/SGT JACK H. PARKER                    ROG SWA 31 DEC 44 HAMBURG (FLAK WOUND)
T/SGT ANTHONY C. SAPPER             TTE CPT DATE & MISSION UNK
S/SGT GEORGE D. MAST                   WG CPT DATE & MISSION UNK
S/SGT JOSEPH W. KAMPER, JR            BTG CPT DATE & MISSION UNK
S/SGT WILLIAM R. TAYLOR                TG CPT 08 APR 45` EGER (CZECH)

351ST SQDN..   CREW JOINED THE 100TH ON 20 OCT 1944

THIS WITH SOME PERSONNEL CHANGES BECAME A LEAD CREW. LTs NORMAN GRAHAM & ARTHUR ZEMSKE FROM THE P.B. BATTERMAN CREW REPLACED PORTER AND PATERNO. LATER P.B. BATTERMAN, HIMSELF, JOINED AS CO-PILOT (MOSTLY FLYING TAIL GUNNER). ALSO SGT TOM FAGAN FROM THE BATTERMAN CREW REPLACED THE WOUNDED JACK PARKER.

IN A LETTER TO JIM BROWN IN 1983 NORMAN GRAHAM EXPRESSED THE BELIEF THAT ALFRED PATERNO WAS ASSIGNED TO A LEAD CREW PILOTED BY JESSIE WOFFORD..pw

LEAD CREW (mpf 2000)

2ND LT DAVID E. HUTCHINSON            P CPT 08 APR 45 EGER (CZECH)
2ND LT PAUL B. BATTERMAN             CP CPT 06 APR 45 LEIPZIG     
2ND LT NORMAN GRAHAM               NAV CPT DATE & MISSION UNK
2ND LT ARTHUR ZEMSKE               BOMB CPT 06 APR 45 LEIPZIG
SGT THOMAS FAGEN                     ROG CPT DATE & MISSION UNK
T/SGT ANTHONY C. SAPPER          TTE CPT DATE & MISSION UNK
S/SGT GEORGE D. MAST                WG CPT DATE & MISSION UNK
S/SGT JOSEPH W. KAMPER, JR         BTG CPT DATE & MISSION UNK
S/SGT WILLIAM R. TAYLOR               TG CPT 08 APR 45 EGER (CZECH)


INCOMPLETE LIST OF MISSIONS FOR LT DAVID HUTCHINSON CREW

DATE           TARGET                       A/C #          A/C NAME

05/12/44      BERLIN                      42-31530     QUITTIN TIME
12/12/44      DARMSTADT              43-38610     PATHFINDER A/C (RADAR EQUIPPED)
25/12/44      KAISERLAUTERN         43-38610     PATHFINDER A/C (RADAR EQUIPPED)
30/12/44      KASSEL                     43-38610     PATHFINDER A/C (RADAR EQUIPPED)
31/12/44     HAMBURG                   43-38610     PATHFINDER A/C (RADAR EQUIPPED)
10/01/45     COLOGNE                   
21/03/45     RUHLAND                    44-8209     THE BRASS HAT (PATHFINDER A/C)
06/04/45     LEIPZIG                      44-8209     THE BRASS HAT (PATHFINDER A/C)
08/04/45     EGER (CZECH)        


SGT MAY AND SGT HOOPER INFO:

CREW

1st Lt Jerome S. Garrison      P FEH
F/O Warren A. Storz         CP FEH
2nd Lt Francis J. Dolan    NAV RFS   After 6 Missions, Replaced by Lt Wallace Polansky 
2nd Lt George N. Yee    BOM FEH
S/Sgt Harold F. Costaldo    TTE CPT  8 APR 45 EGER, MY (CZECH), replaced by Cpl Robert May
Cpl Steve J/ Kowalski        ROG FEH
Cpl William H. Andrews        BTG FEH
S/Sgt George F. Miller      WG FEH   sn# 3386826
Cpl Robert J. Mackeigan       TG RFS  After 2 Missions Replaced by Cpl. Elmer Hooper

351st  Sqdn.. Crew, as above, joined the 100th on 21 Jan 1945
After six missions, Lt Dolan was replaced by Lt Wallace Polansky from Lt Robert Ellis Crew. After 2 missions, Cpl Mackeigan was replaced by Cpl Elmer Hooper from Lt Batterman/Lt Knowles Crew.  S/Sgt Costaldo was replaced by Cpl Robert May from Lt Batterman/Lt Knowles Crew. 
Crew flew SKIPPER II 42-31708, on March 28, 1945 this crew flew SKIPPER II on its 100th MISSION to Hanover.

MISSIONS OF S/SGT GEORGE F. MILLER (mpf 2003)

1.     06/02/45   BOHLEN
2.     21/02/45   NURNBURG
3.     22/02/45   DONAUESCHINGEN
4.     23/02/45   TREUCHTLINGEN
5.     26/02/45   BERLIN
6.     28/02/45   KASSEL
7.     02/03/45   RUHLAND & DRESDEN
8.     04/03/45   ULM
9.     10/03/45   DORTMUND
10.   12/03/45   SWEINEMUNDE
11.   17/03/45   PLAUEN
12.   22/03/45   ALHORN 
13.   24/03/45   STEENWIJK
14.   24/03/45   ZIEGENHAIN (SECOND MISSION THIS DAY)
15.   28/03/45   HANOVER (100th Mission for SKIPPER II)
16.   30/03/45   HAMBURG
17.   31/03/45   ZEITZ
18.   04/04/45   KIEL
19.   05/04/45   NURNBURG
20.   07/04/45   BUCHEN
21.   08/04/45   EGER
22.   09/04/45   MUNICH
23.   10/04/45   BURG-bei-MAGDEBURG
24.   11/04/45   LANDSHUT


Note on Waist Gunner Perovich

CREW

2nd Lt   Raymond V.E.Monrad      P CPT UNK
2nd Lt   Claude E. Schindler        CP KIA 28 MAY 44  MADGEBURG
2nd Lt   Frank J. McGuire          NAV IIC 24 JAN 44 RTN USA ILLINESS (SPINAL MENG)
2nd Lt   Arthur E. Dehn          BOM CPT UNK
    Sgt   Sidney A.Cary             TTE POW 28 MAY 44  MADGEBURG
    Sgt   Talbert E. Spenhoff       ROG IIC 24 JAN 44 UNK REASONS
    Sgt   Arthur M. Lenfast, Jr.     BTG KIA 04 JAN 44  KIEL (lack of oxygen)
    Sgt   Guthrie H. Head             WG IIC 24 JAN 44
    Sgt   Nicholas Perovich             TG CPT 04 MAR 45  KIEL, SUBYARDS
    Sgt   William E. Wells               WG NOC

351st Sqdn.  Crew, as above, joined the 100th on 1/12/43

Don Drysdale flew the last half of his tour as CP for Monrad - this was a squadron lead crew.  Drysdale came from the Glen Rake crew.

S/Sgt  Loren G. Johnson, LWG, was on this crew list on 8/3/44.  He completed  a  tour.

Arch "Four Mile" Drummond, CP on the Swartout crew, became a first pilot and  perhaps took over much of the Monrad crew…letter from Frank McGuire 23 Dec 1990.  Jb

Missions 

1.  4 Jan 44, Kiel, Ger.
 
2.  7 Jan 44, Ludwigshaven, Ger.
 
3.  14 Jan 44,  Secret (France)
 
4.  21 Jan 44,  Secret (France)

    24 Jan 44   Frankfurt: Lt Arch "Four Mile"Drummond's Crew listed below crashed on takeoff in A/C 23307 SKIPPER EP-N  avoiding a collision 
                                   with a stray B-24 

Lt A. Drummond            P CPT EARLY MARCH 1944
Lt F McGuire              NAV IIC 24 JAN 44 RTN USA ILLINESS (SPINAL MENG)
Lt C Schindler               CP KIA 28 MAY 44  MADGEBURG
Lt M. G. Zetlan            BOM KIC 24 JAN 44 
S/Sgt S.A. Cary            TTE POW 28 MAY 44  MADGEBURG
S/Sgt T. E. Spenhoff    ROG IIC 24 JAN 44 
S/Sgt S. M. Szekely       BTG  CPT  24 JUL 44 ST LO
S/Sgt J.R. Pendleton      WG  CPT    
S/Sgt G. H. Head           WG IIC 24 JAN 44
S/Sgt   N. Perovich           TG CPT 04 MAR 45  KIEL, SUBYARDS

Sgt Nicholas Perovich also filled in as WG on the Lt Kenneth Dille Crew .  Crew flew  A/C "The Latest Rumor"  SN # 297126
CREW ROSTERS OF 7 MAY 44 (Berlin Mission) AND 11 MAY 44 (Liege Mission) SHOW S/SGT NICHOLAS PEROVICH IN PLACE OF LaMADRID (Lt Dille Crew).  S/SGT PEROVICH CPT   04 MAR 45  BRUNSWICK.

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S/Sgt Eckmeyer info

CREW
           A/C #42-107233 "Humpty Dumpty"  MACR #11356, MICRO-FICHE #4178

2ND LT WALLACE G. WILSON             P POW 31 DEC 44 HAMBURG
2ND LT CLARENCE R. VAN CLEAVE     CP POW 31 DEC 44 HAMBURG  TAPS: 1965
2ND LT KENNETH F. KANE              NAV POW  31 DEC 44 HAMBURG
2ND LT SIDNEY L. BREWIN, JR.       BOM NOC
CPL PERRY S. GAYE                     ROG POW  31 DEC 44 HAMBURG
CPL DOUGLAS H. NASH                TTE POW  31 DEC 44 HAMBURG  TAPS: 1963
CPL AUSTIN P. GIBBON                BTG POW  31 DEC 44 HAMBURG
CPL GEORGE P. MONTE                 WG POW  31 DEC 44 HAMBURG  TAPS: 1982
CPL EUGENE M. FELLMETH              TG POW  31 DEC 44 HAMBURG

351ST SQDN..  CREW, AS ABOVE, JOINED THE 100TH ON 28 OCT 1944. ON THE HAMBURG MISSION OF 31 DEC 44, LT BREWIN WAS REPLACED BY HERMAN F. ECKMEYER, A TOGGALIER (FROM LT GAY CREW), WHO BECAME A POW.

Letter to Grant Fuller, Executive Vice-President 100th Bomb Group Association, dated June 26, 1991

…We were in the 351st Squadron (by the way, our plane was aptly named Humpty Dumpty) and we went down on December 31, 1944 over Hamburg. To refresh your memory, that was the last big loss for the 100th as we lost, I believe, 14 planes that day. It was also the mission in which the famous crash landing occurred of the two B17's which were stuck together.

On that mission we were without our regular Bombardier, Lee Brewin who had been picked for Lead Crew Training. He was replaced by a Sergeant named Eckmeyer, whose first name I unfortunately do not remember. In any event, that particular day we were bombing Hamburg and we did not have any problems at all until we got in the bomb run and we took a direct hit. The direct hit knocked out electricity and our power and it also knocked out number #1 and 4 which started wind-milling and, because we didn't have power, we were unable to feather them, so we really had a problem in that respect. The Pilot, Wally Wilson of Joplin, Missouri had a load of flak in his left calf and it was obvious right from the beginning that we were not going to fly very much longer so we immediately dropped down to 10,000 feet so that I could put a bandage on Wally's leg and everybody bailed out except Wally and I and our Co-pilot, Roy VanCleave from Memphis, Tennessee. We picked up some ME's and they made two passes at us but on each occasion, Roy VanCleave was able to dump the nose just at the right moment and avoid getting hit by them. It was obvious that the plane wasn't a good place to stay for very long, so I put a chute on Wally and pushed him out and then I went out and then Van trimmed up the plane and went out.

By the way, both Wally and Van are now dead. Wally died about 12 years ago and I understand that he died of bone cancer in his left leg, which is, of course, was the leg that was injured in that particular incident. VanCleave died very young, I think around 42, he had a blood clot and after a minor operation he died. 

Anyway, we all bailed out and we all got picked up immediately; they had the old folks watching from the towers. I was locked up in a fire station until I was turned over to the Military later in the day. That night we all were put together at some kind of a Military Facility that was partly hospital, and partly detention center. At that point in time they bandaged up Wally's leg which had been bleeding all day long. Eckmeyer, our Bombardier, also got injured bailing out, because we had to bail out of the front escape hatch with the bomb run doors open. He had a limp and I assume he might still have it. Everybody else got out and they were; reading from top to bottom.

Doug Nash was our Engineer from Seattle, Washington, Doug died 10 or 12 years ago. Our Radio Operator was Perry Gaye; Perry now lives in Tampa and we have seen him on a few occasions. Our Gunner was George Monte from Omaha and later Albuquerque, I understand George has since died. Our Ball Turret Operator was Austin Gibbon from Oakland and as far as I know Austin is still o.k. Our Tail Gunner was Gene Fellmeth from Masillon, Ohio and I understand that Gene is now a Judge in Masillon. As I said, we all got picked up except, for some reason or other, Perry Gaye got away for a week or so and managed to get frost bite as a result of it because this was December in Germany. By the way, I would like to make a note about Dick Rolle who was in our group who was shot down that day in another plane. Dick bailed out on fire and when he showed up that night at the detention facility, he was blind because the fire came up from below. We really had a hard time getting him to believe that we were who we were because he felt that we might have been German Spies planted to convince him that we were Americans and that he would spill something, of course none of us knew anything anyway. In any event, as I understand it, Dick's sight was restored and I think he's o.k. now.

We then went to a interrogation center in a town called Oberosel, outside of Frankfurt. After the interrogation we went to an "in transit" camp near Wetzlar and from there we went to a permanent camp in Barth which was Stalag Luft I up on the Baltic Sea. This is probably around the 8th or 10th of January by the time we got there and we stayed there until the war was over and we were liberated by the Russians on May 8th, 9th, or 10th, somewhere along there, whenever the war ended.

In respect to our treatment by the Germans, we were never abused or mistreated, we simply were under fed as the whole German nation was under-fed at that time. We were going along on 600 calories a day until about late in April, whenever Holy Week was, because that happens to be the week that the Red Cross parcels started to come in and we all had some food for a change; we also had diarrhea for a change….

Kenneth F. Lane - Navigator..

Mr. Faley,
Thank you for taking the time to help me. I never would have found the POW camp information. I should have known to look under Eckmyer (as opposed to Eckmeyer) as somewhere between 1945 and 1949 he dropped the extra "e" in "meyer". Once again that you for everything. We finally have a picture to go along with his name.
 
Sincerely,
 
Barbara Eckmeyer
penguinnomore@yahoo.com

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Jack L. Gay

90-year-old Jack L. Gay, of Bartlesville, died Wednesday, September 14.  At Mr. Gay's request, there will be no formal funeral service.  Final arrangements for Mr. Gay are under the direction of the Neekamp-Luginbuel Funeral Home.

wlgay1@gmail.com
WILLIAM GAY, SON

MEMO 2:

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PHOTOS:

Lt Gay Crew and  "OUR GAL SAL" and her Flight Crew. (100th Photo Archives) 

Mission 2   S/Sgt Gorman Snider TOG/NG on Capt Jack Gay Crew. 

Mission 3.  S/Sgt Gorman Snider TOG/NG on Capt Jack Gay Crew. Flying in 231530 Quittin Time

Mission 4   S/Sgt Gorman Snider TOG/NG on Capt Jack Gay Crew. Flying in 231530 Quittin Time 

Mission 5. S/Sgt Gorman Snider TOG/NG on Capt Jack Gay Crew. Flying in 231530 Quittin Time

Mission 6. S/Sgt Gorman Snider TOG/NG on Capt Jack Gay Crew. Flying in 231530 Quittin Time

Mission 7. S/Sgt Gorman Snider TOG/NG on Capt Jack Gay Crew. Flying in 231530 Quittin Time

Mission 8.  S/Sgt Gorman Snider TOG/NG on Capt Jack Gay Crew. Flying in 231530 Quittin Time

Mission 9. Berlin Feb 3, 1945:  S/Sgt Gorman Snider TOG/NG on Capt Jack Gay Crew. Flying in 231530 Quittin Time

Mission 10.   There was no mission on Feb 13, 1945 and Capt Gay completed his tour in March so i find this puzzling ... mpf 

 

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